Some people believe that their body causes them to exists. Every time I meet identical twins they seem to consider each other separate beings. DNA tests prove that identical twins have the exact same genes. The spooky thing is that identical twins actually begin as one, one egg is fertilized and then splits in two. If they have the same natural making, why don’t they feel they are each other?
Some people argue that the individual occurrences that each twin experiences causes them to separate into individual identities. If new experiences change your identity how are you still you? “I” went through major life changes but yet the changes happened to “me”. If the twins changed identity because of their contrary experiences, why doesn’t this happen to anyone else?
Terry commented in last post “Who is this "I", "Me", "Self", that exist?” my answer is I don’t know. It seems to me that it has nothing to do with any bodily functions as explained above.
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Showing posts with label religion. Show all posts
Monday, March 1, 2010
Sunday, February 21, 2010
Do you exist?
After years of thinking I came the conclusion that the only thing I know is that I exist. I found a famous philosopher who said the same thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum
"Cogito, ergo sum" Usually translated in English as: "I think, therefore I am", is a philosophical statement in Latin used by René Descartes, which became a foundational element of Western philosophy. The simple meaning of the phrase is that if someone is wondering whether or not he exists, that is in and of itself proof that he does exist (because, at the very least, there is an "I" who is doing the thinking).
Do you understand the depth of this statement? If you aren’t then you can be thinking, perceiving or believing that you are. The very fact that you think you are proves that you are.
Other philosophers take it a step further and say, you don’t need to think in order to be. You either are or aren’t. Thinking is a capability you have once you exist.
Do you know that I exist? Obviously not; you may assume that I exist since I have similar traits to you.
I know I exist but I’m not sure if any of you readers exist. The only reason I’m writing this blog is because I assume you exists since you appear to be similar to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum
"Cogito, ergo sum" Usually translated in English as: "I think, therefore I am", is a philosophical statement in Latin used by René Descartes, which became a foundational element of Western philosophy. The simple meaning of the phrase is that if someone is wondering whether or not he exists, that is in and of itself proof that he does exist (because, at the very least, there is an "I" who is doing the thinking).
Do you understand the depth of this statement? If you aren’t then you can be thinking, perceiving or believing that you are. The very fact that you think you are proves that you are.
Other philosophers take it a step further and say, you don’t need to think in order to be. You either are or aren’t. Thinking is a capability you have once you exist.
Do you know that I exist? Obviously not; you may assume that I exist since I have similar traits to you.
I know I exist but I’m not sure if any of you readers exist. The only reason I’m writing this blog is because I assume you exists since you appear to be similar to me.
Sunday, February 14, 2010
Do you know anything?
I know this sounds provocative, but there is depth to the question.
After discussing about atheists it appears that many people think that, 1) there is no proof that a deity exists 2) Science has disproven the existence of a deity.
What is proof?
People have different definitions of reality. People use different methods to determine reality.
What is absolute unquestionable reality?
This question is intended to reach the very core of your thinking process. How do you know that you know anything?
I split my thinking process into three levels, knowledge, assumption and belief.
Knowledge is absolute.
Assumptions are what you accept as reality even though there are doubts.
Beliefs are when you have little proof but you accept the concept as true.
Both assumptions and beliefs have many sublevels.
You could assume that while crossing the road you won’t get hit by a car, but it could happen. You assume that by getting a job your finances will be taken care of, but you could get fired.
You can believe that aliens occasionally invade earth but there is little evidence if any that they did.
My method is to put each concept in its proper category. If it is an assumption or belief I intellectually weigh it and see how close it is to absolute reality.
So, is there anything that people absolutely know? If yes, what? If no, what is the basis of weighing assumptions?
After discussing about atheists it appears that many people think that, 1) there is no proof that a deity exists 2) Science has disproven the existence of a deity.
What is proof?
People have different definitions of reality. People use different methods to determine reality.
What is absolute unquestionable reality?
This question is intended to reach the very core of your thinking process. How do you know that you know anything?
I split my thinking process into three levels, knowledge, assumption and belief.
Knowledge is absolute.
Assumptions are what you accept as reality even though there are doubts.
Beliefs are when you have little proof but you accept the concept as true.
Both assumptions and beliefs have many sublevels.
You could assume that while crossing the road you won’t get hit by a car, but it could happen. You assume that by getting a job your finances will be taken care of, but you could get fired.
You can believe that aliens occasionally invade earth but there is little evidence if any that they did.
My method is to put each concept in its proper category. If it is an assumption or belief I intellectually weigh it and see how close it is to absolute reality.
So, is there anything that people absolutely know? If yes, what? If no, what is the basis of weighing assumptions?
Thursday, February 11, 2010
What is the difference between atheism and religion?
OK, I said the previous post was the last atheist talk, but I need to conclude the topic. After debating the atheist topic with many people I must conclude, that there are differences between religion and atheism.
Atheists unlike religious people;
1) Have no rituals
2) Have no defined belief
3) Have no peer pressure limiting their thinking
4) Majority believe their idea is logical, (many religions claim to be “faith”)
5) Are mostly willing to explore other possibilities
Any more?
There is still a major difference in not accepting a deity and believing there is
none.
Personally I didn’t always accept that there is a Deity, but I did refuse to deny that there is none. Many atheists whom I spoke to said, that they think the same way. For this blog’s sake I would like to rename such atheists to “soulsearchers” being that they don’t have an “ism” and are opened to thinking beyond what they know. I understand they don’t believe there is a soul, but at least they are willing to explore the possibility.
Atheists unlike religious people;
1) Have no rituals
2) Have no defined belief
3) Have no peer pressure limiting their thinking
4) Majority believe their idea is logical, (many religions claim to be “faith”)
5) Are mostly willing to explore other possibilities
Any more?
There is still a major difference in not accepting a deity and believing there is
none.
Personally I didn’t always accept that there is a Deity, but I did refuse to deny that there is none. Many atheists whom I spoke to said, that they think the same way. For this blog’s sake I would like to rename such atheists to “soulsearchers” being that they don’t have an “ism” and are opened to thinking beyond what they know. I understand they don’t believe there is a soul, but at least they are willing to explore the possibility.
Wednesday, February 10, 2010
Is atheism a religion?
[ http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. Disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings ]
This seems to include all defections of “supreme beings”.
If science can’t prove it knows everything, how could you say that there is proof that no deity exists? Certain definitions of a deity are clearly disproven by science. But, is the “disbelief in the existence of a supreme being” based on logic? Perhaps an atheist rejects the definition of God that they were taught? Perhaps some atheists don’t know that there are many spiritual concepts which science didn’t investigate?
[The Guitar Man] “Alternatively you need to logically prove that the religious viewpoint is logically superior to the scientific viewpoint. You are going to have a hard time with that.”
From the early days of the scientific method many scientists believed that either God does not exist or, he is un-provable. Both of these assumptions are non-scientific.
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
“…a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning. A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses...
These steps must be repeatable in order to dependably predict any future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently-derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. This in turn may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.
Among other facets shared by the various fields of inquiry is the conviction that the process be objective to reduce biased interpretations of the results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, thereby allowing other researchers the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established. ]
Prior to science there were few people who didn’t follow a religion. Even after many years of science majority of people still believe in a religion.
Is there a rule of nature that is 1) as repeatable as religion 2) has “wider domains of inquiry” than religion?
In the early years of science masses turned to atheism. In the past 30 year spirituality is growing exponentially. Isn’t it logical that since humans believe in spirituality after hundreds of years of science, people will always continue to believe? On this evidence alone this blog is a scientific “hypotheses”.
An open minded intellectual would say “I’m not sure if there is or isn’t a deity” unless they have proof either way. If someone says “I believe that there is no God” how is this different from the leap of faith that there is a God?
[The guitar man]“There is a wealth of wisdom that awaits those who venture away from their Bibles, churches and mosques. I think it is every man's right to explore these ideas and take from them what comfort and hope he can.”
I partially agree with you, I think people should venture. This includes venturing through the Bible/s and science. If people accept scientific theories without rethinking the evidence and method then the scientific method won’t work. The reason scientific method works is because numerous challenges cut away mistakes and whatever is left has a good chance of being true.
I began presenting Social Scientific signs of the super-natural. I already discussed them with psychologists many of whom agree. After reading each post, feel free to propose an hypotheses which contradicts this blog.
OK, enough atheist talk. Next post we will return to logically searching for spirituality.
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. Disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings ]
This seems to include all defections of “supreme beings”.
If science can’t prove it knows everything, how could you say that there is proof that no deity exists? Certain definitions of a deity are clearly disproven by science. But, is the “disbelief in the existence of a supreme being” based on logic? Perhaps an atheist rejects the definition of God that they were taught? Perhaps some atheists don’t know that there are many spiritual concepts which science didn’t investigate?
[The Guitar Man] “Alternatively you need to logically prove that the religious viewpoint is logically superior to the scientific viewpoint. You are going to have a hard time with that.”
From the early days of the scientific method many scientists believed that either God does not exist or, he is un-provable. Both of these assumptions are non-scientific.
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
“…a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning. A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses...
These steps must be repeatable in order to dependably predict any future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently-derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. This in turn may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.
Among other facets shared by the various fields of inquiry is the conviction that the process be objective to reduce biased interpretations of the results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, thereby allowing other researchers the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established. ]
Prior to science there were few people who didn’t follow a religion. Even after many years of science majority of people still believe in a religion.
Is there a rule of nature that is 1) as repeatable as religion 2) has “wider domains of inquiry” than religion?
In the early years of science masses turned to atheism. In the past 30 year spirituality is growing exponentially. Isn’t it logical that since humans believe in spirituality after hundreds of years of science, people will always continue to believe? On this evidence alone this blog is a scientific “hypotheses”.
An open minded intellectual would say “I’m not sure if there is or isn’t a deity” unless they have proof either way. If someone says “I believe that there is no God” how is this different from the leap of faith that there is a God?
[The guitar man]“There is a wealth of wisdom that awaits those who venture away from their Bibles, churches and mosques. I think it is every man's right to explore these ideas and take from them what comfort and hope he can.”
I partially agree with you, I think people should venture. This includes venturing through the Bible/s and science. If people accept scientific theories without rethinking the evidence and method then the scientific method won’t work. The reason scientific method works is because numerous challenges cut away mistakes and whatever is left has a good chance of being true.
I began presenting Social Scientific signs of the super-natural. I already discussed them with psychologists many of whom agree. After reading each post, feel free to propose an hypotheses which contradicts this blog.
OK, enough atheist talk. Next post we will return to logically searching for spirituality.
Monday, February 8, 2010
Does science disprove the existence of spirituality?
[The Guitar Man] “You say atheism has no logical proof? Atheism has tons of scientific proof. We have telescopes mounted on satellites that can see images of the universe at the dawn of time. These telescopes have scoured the universe and there no sign of him. Where is he hiding?”
If the concept of a deity is an organism like creature in the heavens, I’m an atheist. How can this organism control what goes in the world if it is so far? When it manipulates nature why don’t we see it? Why can’t we see it in a telescope?
Imagine you invent the CD. You bring the CD to the home of the best microscope in the world. You announce to a group of scientists that the entire encyclopedia is written on this little disc. The scientists examine the disc with the microscope and determine that you are lying.
How many different planes of reality are there?
Radio: Tell people from the Stone Age that a voice is being transmitted through the air. What would they think?
Science revealed many planes of reality. Some realities need tools to influence them. Can science prove that all realities are obtainable via physical vessels? Could science prove that all types of realities were already discovered?
Do any belief systems advocate a deity which doesn’t contradict science?
If the concept of a deity is an organism like creature in the heavens, I’m an atheist. How can this organism control what goes in the world if it is so far? When it manipulates nature why don’t we see it? Why can’t we see it in a telescope?
Imagine you invent the CD. You bring the CD to the home of the best microscope in the world. You announce to a group of scientists that the entire encyclopedia is written on this little disc. The scientists examine the disc with the microscope and determine that you are lying.
How many different planes of reality are there?
Radio: Tell people from the Stone Age that a voice is being transmitted through the air. What would they think?
Science revealed many planes of reality. Some realities need tools to influence them. Can science prove that all realities are obtainable via physical vessels? Could science prove that all types of realities were already discovered?
Do any belief systems advocate a deity which doesn’t contradict science?
Sunday, February 7, 2010
Are atheists better than religious people?
You may have noticed, I refrain from mentioning specific religions. I want to keep this blog emotion free. If I would challenge a religion, people of that faith would react emotionally. If this blog is an intellectual journey, why did I directly challenge atheism?
Can an atheist get emotional to challenges?
Is atheism an organized religion? Do atheists have a central belief system? Are
atheists connected to a political or institutional body? How emotionally connected can atheist be to their beliefs? Are people indoctrinated into atheism? Are there atheist communities? Are there atheist support groups?
Are there more physical benefits to being religious? (If an atheist only believes in the physical, why would they give-up pleasure for truth? Shouldn’t they fake belief for the benefits? What are the physical benefits from knowing the truth? Isn’t the desire for truth super-natural?)
[The Guitar Man] “If you were part of a religious community and you become atheist you would tend to cut yourself free of that community (at least the religious ritual aspect). You may actually lose friends from doing it as well. So I can't see the ulterior motive of atheists other than the desire to be free from the control of a deity they don't believe in and to free themselves from the control of the adherents who enforce what Christopher Hitchens calls 'this celestial dictatorship'.”
What percent of atheists fight to bring truth to the world? Are atheists fighting an uphill battle? Aren’t atheists outnumbered? What percentage of religious people try to promote truth? Don’t atheists deserve respect for their effort?
Are atheists on a spiritual quest?
Can an atheist get emotional to challenges?
Is atheism an organized religion? Do atheists have a central belief system? Are
atheists connected to a political or institutional body? How emotionally connected can atheist be to their beliefs? Are people indoctrinated into atheism? Are there atheist communities? Are there atheist support groups?
Are there more physical benefits to being religious? (If an atheist only believes in the physical, why would they give-up pleasure for truth? Shouldn’t they fake belief for the benefits? What are the physical benefits from knowing the truth? Isn’t the desire for truth super-natural?)
[The Guitar Man] “If you were part of a religious community and you become atheist you would tend to cut yourself free of that community (at least the religious ritual aspect). You may actually lose friends from doing it as well. So I can't see the ulterior motive of atheists other than the desire to be free from the control of a deity they don't believe in and to free themselves from the control of the adherents who enforce what Christopher Hitchens calls 'this celestial dictatorship'.”
What percent of atheists fight to bring truth to the world? Are atheists fighting an uphill battle? Aren’t atheists outnumbered? What percentage of religious people try to promote truth? Don’t atheists deserve respect for their effort?
Are atheists on a spiritual quest?
Saturday, February 6, 2010
Are there ulterior motives for atheism?
“The Guitar Man” spent a lot of energy commenting on some of my posts. I would like to bring his ideas to the forefront.
I would appreciate if comments use the question format which I use. 1) It is easier to reply to their query 2) A statement says “this is fact”, if someone disagrees they hesitate to respond. When you present a question you are saying “this is why I believe, please enlighten me if you think I am mistaken”
As I mention in my profile “I was raised religious and wanted to run away; I failed.” Why didn’t I accept atheism?
I will spend the next few posts on The Guitar Man’s comments as well as the general concept of atheism. I’m not sure who “The Guitar Man” is but if seems that he has thought through his ideas.
The Guitar man] “I can't see any ulterior motives in Atheism.”
I would present this; Are there motives of atheism?
The Guitar man] “The atheist doesn't wonder at how a merciful deity can bury 150,000 poor Haitians under rubble and drown 225,000 Asians under a tsunami.”
Who said the deity is merciful?
In previous posts I bring out how many people follow their religions for personal benefits. Don’t you think that some religions interpret their deity to fit what people want to hear?
[The Guitar Man] “Religious people spend there time on their knees, grovelling to a non-existent deity. Atheists stand tall and walk the earth proudly. They gaze in wonderment at the awesomeness of the universe and of nature (without thinking that it has a creator who 13.5 billion years later is highly, highly offended by someone who chooses not to believe in him…)”
Who said he is offended?
[The Guitar Man] “So I can't see the ulterior motive of atheists other than the desire to be free from the control of a deity they don't believe in and to free themselves from the control of the adherents who enforce what Christopher Hitchens calls 'this celestial dictatorship'.”
“Other than”? So you found an ulterior motive let’s try to find more.
Many religions misuse catastrophes to warn “sinners”. Accepting such preaching puts tremendous pressure on a person. Is an Atheist trying to get rid of their emotional burden?
It seems worrisome to believe that a deity commits what humans think is evil. Isn’t it comforting to believe that no intellectual being causes major world disasters?
Isn’t life easier if there is no deity to serve? Isn’t it comforting not to be worried about consequences?
Isn’t this an ulterior motive?
This blog is called “The True Religion”. What is the truth? Not, what feels better?
If there is a deity who enjoys seeing the blood of his creations, what do you accomplish by denying him?
I would appreciate if comments use the question format which I use. 1) It is easier to reply to their query 2) A statement says “this is fact”, if someone disagrees they hesitate to respond. When you present a question you are saying “this is why I believe, please enlighten me if you think I am mistaken”
As I mention in my profile “I was raised religious and wanted to run away; I failed.” Why didn’t I accept atheism?
I will spend the next few posts on The Guitar Man’s comments as well as the general concept of atheism. I’m not sure who “The Guitar Man” is but if seems that he has thought through his ideas.
The Guitar man] “I can't see any ulterior motives in Atheism.”
I would present this; Are there motives of atheism?
The Guitar man] “The atheist doesn't wonder at how a merciful deity can bury 150,000 poor Haitians under rubble and drown 225,000 Asians under a tsunami.”
Who said the deity is merciful?
In previous posts I bring out how many people follow their religions for personal benefits. Don’t you think that some religions interpret their deity to fit what people want to hear?
[The Guitar Man] “Religious people spend there time on their knees, grovelling to a non-existent deity. Atheists stand tall and walk the earth proudly. They gaze in wonderment at the awesomeness of the universe and of nature (without thinking that it has a creator who 13.5 billion years later is highly, highly offended by someone who chooses not to believe in him…)”
Who said he is offended?
[The Guitar Man] “So I can't see the ulterior motive of atheists other than the desire to be free from the control of a deity they don't believe in and to free themselves from the control of the adherents who enforce what Christopher Hitchens calls 'this celestial dictatorship'.”
“Other than”? So you found an ulterior motive let’s try to find more.
Many religions misuse catastrophes to warn “sinners”. Accepting such preaching puts tremendous pressure on a person. Is an Atheist trying to get rid of their emotional burden?
It seems worrisome to believe that a deity commits what humans think is evil. Isn’t it comforting to believe that no intellectual being causes major world disasters?
Isn’t life easier if there is no deity to serve? Isn’t it comforting not to be worried about consequences?
Isn’t this an ulterior motive?
This blog is called “The True Religion”. What is the truth? Not, what feels better?
If there is a deity who enjoys seeing the blood of his creations, what do you accomplish by denying him?
Thursday, February 4, 2010
Can people sense their “soul”?
In the past I tried not to make any statements. There purpose of the “question style statements” is to express the possibility that I am wrong. I want the reader to intellectually challenge my way of thinking.
I would like to make an exception for this to make just one statement. I’ve been presenting evidence of a super-natural side to humans. I placed the questions on many websites and received no satisfactory answers. It seems obvious that humans have feelings, desires and focuses which are completely unnecessary to the human race.
I will base future posts of this reality but feel free continue challenging it.
I bring out the affects of the spiritual side.
What is the “spirit” within? How can I satisfy my spirit if I don’t know what it is?
I would like to make an exception for this to make just one statement. I’ve been presenting evidence of a super-natural side to humans. I placed the questions on many websites and received no satisfactory answers. It seems obvious that humans have feelings, desires and focuses which are completely unnecessary to the human race.
I will base future posts of this reality but feel free continue challenging it.
I bring out the affects of the spiritual side.
What is the “spirit” within? How can I satisfy my spirit if I don’t know what it is?
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
Why do you care if there is a G-d?
Does the desire to know if there is deities evolve from our need to work together? Do we need to work together to advance our species? Do we need belief to provide a governing force to the world? If we don’t believe in a G-d would it prevent us from working together?
“The Guitar Man” mentioned in a previous comment; that there are good and evil atheists. Many atheists developed a natural way of inter-human relations which are not based on a supreme being. There are animals that have types of governments to ensure that they collaborate.
Is a deity necessary? Why would we evolve to connect to a G-d if the simplest way would be “let's work together to live better”? Do religions advanced human tranquility? Or, has tranquility developed from humans recognizing the physical advantages to peace? If we developed religion to govern ourselves why doesn’t it work?
Isn’t the very desire to know if there is a G-d a super-natural aspiration? If not, what are the natural benefits for this desire?
“The Guitar Man” mentioned in a previous comment; that there are good and evil atheists. Many atheists developed a natural way of inter-human relations which are not based on a supreme being. There are animals that have types of governments to ensure that they collaborate.
Is a deity necessary? Why would we evolve to connect to a G-d if the simplest way would be “let's work together to live better”? Do religions advanced human tranquility? Or, has tranquility developed from humans recognizing the physical advantages to peace? If we developed religion to govern ourselves why doesn’t it work?
Isn’t the very desire to know if there is a G-d a super-natural aspiration? If not, what are the natural benefits for this desire?
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
Where does guilt come from?
What’s the natural purpose of guilt? If someone does an evil action why should they feel bad? Can they change it? Let’s use an extreme case, someone murders and immediately committs suicide.
It’s your fault? So what?
If there is a super-natural plain, perhaps they are hurting their loftier self by doing evil?
If the world is natural, the only explanation I could think of is, we evolved with guilt in order to maintain order amongst our kind. If that is the case, shouldn’t guilt come before the act? Why does guilt come after an irreversible action? Did we evolve with a glitch?
In my soul search I often imagine human evolution. When it comes to guilt I just don’t see where is belongs. Survival of the fittest means your fitter if you outlive someone. Shouldn’t it make you happy that someone else is dead?
It’s your fault? So what?
If there is a super-natural plain, perhaps they are hurting their loftier self by doing evil?
If the world is natural, the only explanation I could think of is, we evolved with guilt in order to maintain order amongst our kind. If that is the case, shouldn’t guilt come before the act? Why does guilt come after an irreversible action? Did we evolve with a glitch?
In my soul search I often imagine human evolution. When it comes to guilt I just don’t see where is belongs. Survival of the fittest means your fitter if you outlive someone. Shouldn’t it make you happy that someone else is dead?
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Why would a rich man commit suicide?
Before writing this post I did a Google search on “rich man commits suicide”, there was no lack of stories.
How is it physically possible for someone to take their own life?
Is it in order to feel better? If you stop existing you won’t be at all. Doesn’t it seem that people know there is an afterlife? When a situation gets really bad people think it’s worth the gamble to die and try the next thing.
Let’s take it further;
If we are only physical them all we should care about is food, shelter and procreation. Why would a rich man commit suicide? I’m not referring to a man who lost his money, I’m referring to a rich man is his peak. He could buy all the food he wants. He could have a bigger home then he could use. I’m sure he would not have a hard time finding women ready to live with him.
Could you give a natural explanation?
How is it physically possible for someone to take their own life?
Is it in order to feel better? If you stop existing you won’t be at all. Doesn’t it seem that people know there is an afterlife? When a situation gets really bad people think it’s worth the gamble to die and try the next thing.
Let’s take it further;
If we are only physical them all we should care about is food, shelter and procreation. Why would a rich man commit suicide? I’m not referring to a man who lost his money, I’m referring to a rich man is his peak. He could buy all the food he wants. He could have a bigger home then he could use. I’m sure he would not have a hard time finding women ready to live with him.
Could you give a natural explanation?
Monday, January 25, 2010
Why do people fight for freedom?
Is freedom a necessity beyond comprehension? Or; does it satisfy the needs of yourself and your kind?
Do people want freedom to enable them to have a purpose in the world?
Won't atheists deprive themselves of food and sleep to make their mark on the world? If they believe that death is the end; why would they care about their reputation after death? Shouldn’t they focus entirely on self indulgence? The only scientific excuse would be to attract a mate, or to make money. Do you find brainy scientist attractive? Do you think that being a brainy scientist is the best path to fortune?
People in the past posted good comments, were you? I need your help; this is a major part of my puzzle. I am trying to accumulate prove for this theory.
According to science every organism wants to serve itself and its kind, I could only think of two conclusions 1) Science has proven that humans are supernatural, or 2) The supernatural has scientific implication in nature, particularly affecting human. Can you answer this any other way?
Please!!! Help me discover other human desires which are supernatural, or explain to me how the above is natural.
If this post is wild, consider that I had a drink before writing it. If not, it proves I could think while drunk.
Do people want freedom to enable them to have a purpose in the world?
Won't atheists deprive themselves of food and sleep to make their mark on the world? If they believe that death is the end; why would they care about their reputation after death? Shouldn’t they focus entirely on self indulgence? The only scientific excuse would be to attract a mate, or to make money. Do you find brainy scientist attractive? Do you think that being a brainy scientist is the best path to fortune?
People in the past posted good comments, were you? I need your help; this is a major part of my puzzle. I am trying to accumulate prove for this theory.
According to science every organism wants to serve itself and its kind, I could only think of two conclusions 1) Science has proven that humans are supernatural, or 2) The supernatural has scientific implication in nature, particularly affecting human. Can you answer this any other way?
Please!!! Help me discover other human desires which are supernatural, or explain to me how the above is natural.
If this post is wild, consider that I had a drink before writing it. If not, it proves I could think while drunk.
Sunday, January 24, 2010
After all scientific discoveries, why do most people still follow religions which conflict with science?
Science says that every organism has two desires 1) to serve itself 2) to serve its kind. This would include eating, drinking, sleeping and procreating. Humans seem to have many desires beyond these two. I will focus the next few posts on this concept. Please help me discover desires which do not affect the desirer or human kind.
If you offer a loin food, a mate and enough place to move around, they are happy. If you offer a human food and a mate and lock them on the nicest resort in the world, will they be happy? Why not?
Some will say “they want freedom”. Why do humans need freedom?
Could you live purely for personal indulgence?
Why do you think humans want more than food and a mate?
If you offer a loin food, a mate and enough place to move around, they are happy. If you offer a human food and a mate and lock them on the nicest resort in the world, will they be happy? Why not?
Some will say “they want freedom”. Why do humans need freedom?
Could you live purely for personal indulgence?
Why do you think humans want more than food and a mate?
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Are there people who believe their religion is true?
Are they open minded intellectuals or stupid people? Do they completely accept a major religion?
If there is an open minded intellectual, were can I find him?
Did you ever debate about religion? Don’t all religions have serious challenges? I often see such debates having the same questions over and over again. The debate usually changes from religion to “You are stupid” “You are closed minded” “you are anti-G-d” “You are going to hell”. If the person is opened minded why are they afraid of challenging questions? Either they know the answers and can assist others in finding the truth, or they can learn more and advance their understanding.
Isn’t the first step of soul searching to be opened to learn? I don’t think someone needs to read every religious book, but they should at least understand the basic principles, unless they are absolutely sure that they found the true religion. If they are sure they are part of the true religion would they fear challenges?
If there is an open minded intellectual, were can I find him?
Did you ever debate about religion? Don’t all religions have serious challenges? I often see such debates having the same questions over and over again. The debate usually changes from religion to “You are stupid” “You are closed minded” “you are anti-G-d” “You are going to hell”. If the person is opened minded why are they afraid of challenging questions? Either they know the answers and can assist others in finding the truth, or they can learn more and advance their understanding.
Isn’t the first step of soul searching to be opened to learn? I don’t think someone needs to read every religious book, but they should at least understand the basic principles, unless they are absolutely sure that they found the true religion. If they are sure they are part of the true religion would they fear challenges?
Monday, January 18, 2010
Why would someone follow a religion out of fear that it’s true?
After a few posts dealing with ulterior motives for religion, I would like to begin discussing real motives. Are there people who accept a faith for religious reasons?
Ever heard of fire and brimstone conversions? Missionaries often instill fear in the hearts of their subjects. They threaten terrible consequences for those who don’t convert. Don't all religions have consequences for non believers? If they do, why make a fear based conversion? By converting you are doomed by all other religions.
Do people convert because they are spooked by the emotions their missionaries instilled in them? Isn’t it coincidence as to which religion spooked them first?
If there is a G-d, don’t you think he knows how he created you? What if he created you in the correct religion? By you converting you are making a terible statement. If G-d intended you to convert, wouldn’t he provide sufficient evidence? Wouldn’t it be best to maintain status quo till you are sure what G-d wants? If G-d is just, wouldn’t he accept that you tired? Obviously you have to try.
Ever heard of fire and brimstone conversions? Missionaries often instill fear in the hearts of their subjects. They threaten terrible consequences for those who don’t convert. Don't all religions have consequences for non believers? If they do, why make a fear based conversion? By converting you are doomed by all other religions.
Do people convert because they are spooked by the emotions their missionaries instilled in them? Isn’t it coincidence as to which religion spooked them first?
If there is a G-d, don’t you think he knows how he created you? What if he created you in the correct religion? By you converting you are making a terible statement. If G-d intended you to convert, wouldn’t he provide sufficient evidence? Wouldn’t it be best to maintain status quo till you are sure what G-d wants? If G-d is just, wouldn’t he accept that you tired? Obviously you have to try.
Sunday, January 17, 2010
How do religions trap people?
Yesterday I met a woman who appeared to be in her sixties. She asked if I accept her religion. I replied the negative. She began to warn me that I should hurry and accept her religion or I will go to eternal hell.
I asked her if she used a significant amount of intellectual energy confirming her beliefs. She said “oh no, I accepted my religion when I was twelve, that’s the way I was taught”. I replied “well I was taught differently”. You were taught wrong, she said. I did not continue the conversation since I saw no point.
Please help me understand, how could a twelve year old comprehend what opposing religions couldn’t understand for millennium? More so, how does a sixty year old woman think her religion is true based on her understanding as a twelve year old? I am not suggesting her religion is false, I’m just asking how is she so sure? Or, was she psychologically trapped in her religion.
All religions I know set traps to prevent their followers from leaving. What are the traps? How can a person prevent these traps from depriving us of the truth?
I asked her if she used a significant amount of intellectual energy confirming her beliefs. She said “oh no, I accepted my religion when I was twelve, that’s the way I was taught”. I replied “well I was taught differently”. You were taught wrong, she said. I did not continue the conversation since I saw no point.
Please help me understand, how could a twelve year old comprehend what opposing religions couldn’t understand for millennium? More so, how does a sixty year old woman think her religion is true based on her understanding as a twelve year old? I am not suggesting her religion is false, I’m just asking how is she so sure? Or, was she psychologically trapped in her religion.
All religions I know set traps to prevent their followers from leaving. What are the traps? How can a person prevent these traps from depriving us of the truth?
Thursday, January 14, 2010
Are you trapped in a religion?
Does your family follow a certain religion? Do most of your friends follow a certain religion? Do your religious leaders reject people who question? If you were to consider another religion, do you fear you will lose your community life? Do you refuse to ruin your communal life without a good reason?
If your country were to commit the ultimate evil, would you risk your status to prevent such acts? Do you think that fulfilling your purpose for creation is worth the risk? Or, do you prefer to remain in your comfort zone rather than doing what is right? Or, did you give up on anything being true? If you gave up, why are you reading this?
Why can’t you do the research secretly? Do you have to give up anything to think? If there is a G-d, perhaps he made the web to help you find him. If you were made for a reason, don’t you think it is worth the effort? If the creator ever asks can you say you tried?
Thank you "The Guitar Man" for your comment which lead to this post
If your country were to commit the ultimate evil, would you risk your status to prevent such acts? Do you think that fulfilling your purpose for creation is worth the risk? Or, do you prefer to remain in your comfort zone rather than doing what is right? Or, did you give up on anything being true? If you gave up, why are you reading this?
Why can’t you do the research secretly? Do you have to give up anything to think? If there is a G-d, perhaps he made the web to help you find him. If you were made for a reason, don’t you think it is worth the effort? If the creator ever asks can you say you tried?
Thank you "The Guitar Man" for your comment which lead to this post
Monday, January 4, 2010
Is religion just a self entertaining imagination?
If you accept a religion because its answers are to your liking, then what is your motive for following? If the answers are definite, is it a religion? If they are not definite, how is it different from other religions? Once again logically you have a terrible chance of being correct.
Maybe the founders of religion were artist who competed over best movie? Some are better than others.
Doesn’t it reality itch you? If religion is just a movie it should not cost so much?
How many people got killed? Why does it prevent so much enjoyment? Isn’t it expensive?
There are people these days who are trying to create new religions. Should we work with them to create the imagination that will be harmless? Or, is there some real truth out there?
r
Maybe the founders of religion were artist who competed over best movie? Some are better than others.
Doesn’t it reality itch you? If religion is just a movie it should not cost so much?
How many people got killed? Why does it prevent so much enjoyment? Isn’t it expensive?
There are people these days who are trying to create new religions. Should we work with them to create the imagination that will be harmless? Or, is there some real truth out there?
r
Saturday, January 2, 2010
Does a religion answer your questions?
I have a long list of motives for religion, I intend to discuss them one post at a time. Due to a brilliant comment on my last post, let’s begin with discussing the comment. Anonymous said... “religions can provide answers for things/phenomenons which people can't explain themselves. Not having an explanation is very unsatisfying for many so they turn to groups/individuals which provide explanations. The more convincing the explanations are the more people will follow”
How many people do you know would consider changing their religion if a different one had better answers? I find that such people are rare. People who would, I consider soul searchers. The others I will discuss in another post G-d willing.
Are people’s questions very different from each other?
If yes; why do answers to your questions determine the true religion?
If not; why are there so many religions?
If after accepting the most convincing explanation, people don’t know the answer, how can a one judge which one is better? Can people disprove the conflicting answers? Are people choosing whatever feels better? Maybe reality is not on your side? Why go to a religion, make it up yourself? Does it feel better to have someone else make it up for you?
What is stopping someone from creating an outrageous religion and offering exciting answers? Don’t you think this is how other religions started? Why is yours different?
How many people do you know would consider changing their religion if a different one had better answers? I find that such people are rare. People who would, I consider soul searchers. The others I will discuss in another post G-d willing.
Are people’s questions very different from each other?
If yes; why do answers to your questions determine the true religion?
If not; why are there so many religions?
If after accepting the most convincing explanation, people don’t know the answer, how can a one judge which one is better? Can people disprove the conflicting answers? Are people choosing whatever feels better? Maybe reality is not on your side? Why go to a religion, make it up yourself? Does it feel better to have someone else make it up for you?
What is stopping someone from creating an outrageous religion and offering exciting answers? Don’t you think this is how other religions started? Why is yours different?
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